He's just loosing his temper and yelling at people, trying to cow them into submission.Ĭadsuane, since the very start, has always taken the approach of treating him like a child when he acts like one. See, I think the problem is you can't see this from anyone but Rand's perspective. I have no doubt that, given that RJ is the master of the WoT universe, Cadsuane's "tutelage" will wind up being helpful to Rand in the end, but I have a hard time swallowing that it seems to me that she doesn't understand what he needs and that to the extent that she does, she's going about helping in the wrong way. this is, when that's the last thing you need. Sure, she means well, but it's like when you're putting on a brave face about something and somebody thinks you're being too flippant and proceeds to yell at you about how dangerous/important/etc.
Ultimately I think it's hard not to sympathize with Rand in this (although I maybe sympathize with him more than a lot of people?): he's going through a lot of shit, and then she shows up and follows him around acting like a jerk. And so we missed whatever he found amusing about the situation.Īlternatively, can anybody on here tell me whether Cadsuane's style of public rebuke would be considered acceptable in the military? That's the only place I can think of where Jordan might have picked it up-in which case, maybe he's analogizing Cadsuane to Rand's lieutenant or something, where we're seeing an elderly woman who appears several books in and certainly isn't part of any hierarchy that Rand signed up for.
#Brave earth prologue sjw series#
Perhaps it's partially because he was significantly older than the vast majority of the readership? Maybe he identified more with the elderly Cadsuane, while the rest of us identified more readily with the 20-something Rand, especially since so many of us started the series as teenagers. Hell, for a lot of people it's not how you treat a kid, but with an adult you'd castigate them in private, or at most say "Rand!" and glare at them.Īt any rate, it's interesting that Jordan writes about behavior that he evidently finds endearing, but that comes across as totally inappropriate and childish to most of the readers. This is not how you treat an adult protegee.
When I think about Cadsuane's behavior toward Rand, there's one scene that stands out for me they're in a roomful of people, his temper is short, and when he yells at people she's like, "One." "Two." "Three." And then she spanks him with Air or something, in front of the roomful of people. While I see the seeds of this in Cadsuane, though, that's really not how her characterization came across to me-nor to most people it seems, including Sanderson. But they're actually good for you and you wind up loving them. Most of us have known people like this, and often they do come across as jerks at first (or forever if you're not favorably disposed toward the person. He says, more or less, that she's one of those hardass parental figures that you nevertheless really want to please because their respect is worth more for being hard to earn, and they'll treat you like an adult if you win it.
I see where Jordan's coming from and I see some evidence of what he says he's trying to do with the character.
I read the Jordan and Sanderson quotes and it's an interesting thing. Sorry to follow up on my own post like this, but about Cadsuane.
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